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MR-Sは遅くない!
- 1 ポン 2007/04/13(Fri) 03:03
- MR-Sは速いと思います。そりゃぁターボと比較したら長い直線では負けるに決まってる。初めて乗ったときは、これホント140馬力?って思いました。140馬力ってことを考えてみてください。速いですよ。山に行ってもVTECには負けません。コーナリングスピードでは国内はNO1だと思ってます。ゼロヨンだってノーマルのSWターボとはいい勝負します。もちろんVTECより速いです。みなさんが言う遅いとは長い直線のことですよね?
- 195 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2007/08/21(Tue) 13:00
- >>193
AWはあくまでもスポーツカーではないというスタンスだったんだけどね。
SWで堂々とスポーツカーを名乗れる時代になり、
ZZWもライトウェイトスポーツというスタンスでしたよ。
- 196 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2007/08/21(Tue) 13:04
- あれはただのオープンカー。どう贔屓目に見てもスポーツ車でなく、スポーティ車だね。
第一、開発陣のコメントからしてスポーツ車ではない。
- 197 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2007/08/21(Tue) 13:07
- 大体スポーツ車なら、何故せめてセリカの上級グレードのエンジンを積まないのだ?
どう考えてもおかしい。
- 198 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2007/08/21(Tue) 13:23
- >>197
それを言ったら、ロードスターだって同じことだよ。
しかも君、乗ったことなくて発言してるよね。
- 199 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2007/08/21(Tue) 13:24
- >>196
ソースは?
- 200 名無しさん@陽気な不良外人 2007/08/21(Tue) 13:24
- 積まないのではなくて積めない。
物理的には積めるが耐久性に難アリだとか…
ヨタは○菱のような無謀はしないという事さ
- 201 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2007/08/21(Tue) 13:30
- ロードスターはまだハンドリングがいいからな。MR-Sはそれすらない。結局作りがショボいのだな。
SW20で言えば、ハイメカの3S-FEしか載っけられないのだから。
- 202 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2007/08/21(Tue) 13:39
- >>201
ハンドリングがいいと言ってるのは、ステアリングの取り付け剛性を高めているだけで、
リアサスを含めた全体的なコーナリング性能からいくと、MR-Sは優れた物を持っている。
乗った事がないのに随分断定的に言ってくれるな>>201
- 203 名無しさん@陽気な不良外人 2007/08/21(Tue) 17:44
- 脳内がいっぱい沸いてるなwww
- 204 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2007/08/21(Tue) 18:10
- とりま書き込みしておきます。私はSWGTで同僚がZZWです。結論から言うとZZWの方がコーナー速かったですよ。運転のしやすさが速さに繋がる、って印象でした。確かにオーバーに持って行くにはパワーが少ないかもしれませんが、この手のクルマにそれは必要ないなと素直に思った次第でございます。運転中は140PSをあまり意識しなかった事を付け加えておきます。
- 205 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2007/08/21(Tue) 21:21
- SW20のGTとZ ZW30では、ドライバーを含めたとしても25%は後期MR2GTのが重い。当然25%分はタイヤグリップが高くないと物理的に釣り合わないのは道理。MR-Sが215なら、265位は履かないとな。225程度でコーナー同等に走れる方がおかしいよ。
- 206 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2007/08/21(Tue) 23:35
- たしかにコーナーはGTより速いよね。ミニサーキットだとMR-Sの方がタイム出る。
素人同士なんで巧い人が乗ったら結果かわるだろうけど。
- 207 名無しさん@陽気な不良外人 2007/08/22(Wed) 05:18
- でもダサイ
- 208 名無しさん@陽気な不良外人 2007/08/22(Wed) 13:13
- 性能云々よりもバスタブみたいな形がイヤ。
- 209 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2007/08/22(Wed) 18:07
- 速いだけで良いならランエボやインプ乗るわな。
ああいうZZWみたいな雰囲気重視の車こそもっとスタイリングに気を使って欲しいよな〜
結局のところAWやSW乗りがZZWに乗り換えなかったのはスタイリングによるところが大きいと思う…
- 210 名無しさん@陽気な不良外人 2007/08/23(Thu) 06:31
- マイルドになっちゃいましたからね。
AWとかSWのターボみたな、危険な車に脳ミソやられちゃってるもんからしたら
乗り換え候補にならないんじゃないかな。
- 211 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2007/08/23(Thu) 07:59
- ZZWはミッドシップで出す必然がない車だと言われたりしますね。トラクションを語るなら、あの非力さではMRにする必要性は低いし、コーナーリングを語るとしてもリアヘビーより50:50の重量バランスにしやすいFRが良い。安定感を得る為か、操縦性はMRならではと言うほど優れたものでもないし攻めれば攻めるほど粗が目立つ。デザイン面においても、依然としてストラットサスの為か、低くカッコいいフロント回りとは感じず、これFF?みたいなエンジンが入ってそうな形状。しかし実用性の無さだけは、スーパースポーツミッドシップ並みで、ゴルフバックすら載らない不便さ。…それでも前期は、装備が簡略化されたモデルとは言え、割り切れば割安感はあったが、最終型などになるとあの価格をだしてまでMR-Sを?的な、超割高感すらある。
- 212 i@i 2007/08/23(Thu) 08:11
- 最終型MR‐S車両本体価格が240万円だっけ?
- 213 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2007/08/23(Thu) 12:26
- 重量バランス50:50は決して理想ではないよ。
MRシリーズに乗ってればいつかそれに気づく時が来るのだがな。
- 214 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2007/08/23(Thu) 13:30
- 旋回性能では理想。
- 215 名無しさん@陽気な不良外人 2007/08/23(Thu) 17:15
- 走行性能では理想ではない。
- 216 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2007/08/23(Thu) 20:26
- 言われるまでもない。
- 217 名無しさん@陽気な不良外人 2007/08/23(Thu) 20:49
- お呼びでない。
- 218 たぬき 2008/05/04(Sun) 15:57
- そだなぁ。エンジン壊す気で15000回転くらいまで回す事ができれば気持いいだろうなぁ。
とりあえず、ノーマルのレブリミットは低回転すぎ。
- 219 名無しさん@陽気な不良外人 2008/05/05(Mon) 20:37
- >>218
F1か250バイクじゃないから確実に壊れます。
- 220 イエロー 2008/05/06(Tue) 23:26
- >>たぬポン
軽四にでも乗って桶!
- 221 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ 2009/01/02(Fri) 04:41
- あげ
- 222 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2009/01/03(Sat) 20:14
- きっとMR2は馬力を上げすぎてエンジンについていけないシャシーだったんだとおもう!だから最終型はどちらかというとNAが売りだったかなと…だからMR−Sは1800で馬力をおさえたんじゃないかな?だから誰にでも運転を楽しんでもらえるような車にしたんだと思う!ATにもこってるしメインがオープンだしね。排気量おさえたのは環境問題とかも絡んでくるとは思うけど…運転うまい人はそりゃSW20の方が速いと思う!素人だったらMR−SのATとか速そうだけどね。車の完成度は人によるかもしれないけど俺はMR−Sだと思う!自分はMR2ですが…
- 223 イエロー 2009/01/03(Sat) 21:32
- アンダーパワーのシャシファスターの方が楽しい
- 224 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ 2009/01/03(Sat) 22:35
- まぁでもあのクラスにはS2000とロードスターがあるからねぇ
あえてMR-Sに乗る価値があるのか疑問は残るんだよなぁ
他車に対するアドバンテージは車重の軽さとトラクションの良さだけだしねぇ
オープン2シーターならS2000のが楽しくて速いもんなぁ
金があればS2000欲しい俺はMR2好き。
- 225 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2009/01/03(Sat) 23:08
- 俺もS2000好きだな〜!MR2はもちろんすきだけど!あのフロントミッドシップのFRでレブリミット9000回転!バランス良さそうだね!9000回転まわるわりにはDC2やEK9の方が言い音してるのはナゼ?そこ気になるんですけど…MR−Sやロードスター、S2000は速さを求めると言うよりワインディングやフィーリングを楽しむ車じゃね?
- 226 イエロー 2009/01/03(Sat) 23:45
- いい音してると思うが
ほとんどはマフラー変えての排気音だから
ヨタやニサーンのエンジンあまりかわらんな
- 227 名無しさん@陽気な不良外人 2009/01/03(Sat) 23:55
- S2000の後期はレブ落とされていると、湾岸に書いてあったような・・・
NAであそこまで回るエンジンって、今後は出ないだろうけどね。
- 228 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2009/01/04(Sun) 00:05
- 2.2になったからレブが下がったんかな?せっかくのVTECなら音も捨てがたいよね!噂だと9000回転まわるわりにはふけ上がり悪いって聞いたけど…そう言えば首都高でみたモンテカルロブルーパールのNSXイイ音してたな〜。
- 229 イエロー 2009/01/04(Sun) 10:15
- 音は気頭数も影響あるからなぁ
- 230 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ@i 2009/04/17(Fri) 22:06
- フェラーリ
- 231 p 2009/09/20(Sun) 03:31
- あげ
- 232 ななし@マターリ 2009/09/20(Sun) 03:34
- こんな痛いスレがあったんだw
- 233 イエロー 2009/09/21(Mon) 00:12
- あぁ、次期先頭マシン候補だな
- 234 Mr 2009/10/17(Sat) 14:34
- 幌が高い...
- 235 ななし@タマーリ 2009/10/17(Sat) 18:02
- ニューガンダムは伊達じゃない!
- 236 名無しさん@陽気な不良外人 2009/10/17(Sat) 18:21
- ニューじゃなくて、ν(ギリシャ文字)な。
発音は良いけど。
- 237 名無しさん@陽気な不良外人 2009/10/17(Sat) 19:36
- そんなことより乳ガン検診に行こう!
- 238 名無しさん@陽気な不良外人 2009/10/18(Sun) 14:40
- >>237
男はほとんど関係ない。
- 239 たぬき 2010/06/22(Tue) 09:20
- 生産中止になって、パーツもどんどん減っていく。
それでも、日本の峠を走るには、一番楽しい車。
千葉や箱根に行くと、たまに出会う。
車体が軽いから、横に人を乗せるだけで、ブレーキが甘くなる。
しゃあない。
未だにダウンサスも入れていない。 とほほ。
- 240 イエロー 2010/06/22(Tue) 13:54
- >>タヌぽん
よう、俺
通勤快速仕様で雪チェーン付けるからダウンサスはナンセンス
そんなお悩みのあなたに!アブソバだけ交換だ
前は固定でいいが後ろは調整式が吉だ
腰砕けが無くなるぞ
- 241 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ 2010/06/22(Tue) 14:34
- MR-S買った時、最初の週末にやったこと。
それはドライブではなく外装はずしw
外装は溶接されているものというのが常識だったのだが、
MR-Sのそれは簡単にはずして交換できるのが珍しくて珍しくて。
交換することなく1年後に乗り換えちゃったけど。
- 243 あああ 2011/07/07(Thu) 23:12
- これはおもいっきりスポーツできる。乗れば分かるけど、この車はバランスがいい。
多分国産車じゃビート・AZ-1と並ぶ軽快さ持っていながら、リアが流れても怖くない。
エンジン中低速トルク型で、モリモリと車体を運ぶ感じだから、街乗りや峠、ミニサーキット
でとても使いやすい。レギュラーガソリンで実燃費が11km/lくらいだから、今ならニーズ
があるスポーツカーかもね。
弱点は、高回転が伸びないのと、荷物があまり載せられない事くらいかな。
自動車評論家の評価は真っ二つに分かれる車であるのは納得できる。
- 244 ナナシサン@浮気ゴコロ 2011/07/12(Tue) 22:52
- 俺のAW前期は街乗りでも11km/l行くなぁ・・・
高回転でも伸びるし、これ味わうと乗り換える車がない。
- 246 あうあうあー 2012/02/04(Sat) 02:58
- 昔MR-Sを乗ってたが、運転のやり方次第で化ける。
エンジンパワーは低速からトルクがあり加速は良いが、
高回転は伸びずMAXパワーは無い。決して気持ちよくないが、実用性は高い。
燃費が良い。エアフロ汚れると燃費とトルクが落ちるので、マメに掃除。
ギアは入りやすいが、カチカチと気持ちよく入る感じではない。
比較的クロスギア。
ブレーキは非常に利く。制動距離は国産車じゃトップクラスに短いと思われるが、
ABSが空気読まないで作動することがある。腕があればABSカットをオススメ。
剛性はあまりない。タワバとメンバで剛性アップすると基本性能がグンとアップ。
ハンドリングは非常にクイック。ずっと切り込んだ先でアンダー特性。
左足でブレーキをチョンチョン踏めばアンダーは消せる。低速コーナーならば、
ハンドルをこじってアクセルオンでLSDを利かせ曲げる。
運転方法としては、
ターンインはブレーキを強く踏んだ後、踏力を弱めた後すぐにハンドルをクイッと
強く切ってやると、グルンと向きが変わる。(どの車もそうだが、MRなので特にブレーキを強く残す)
トラクションは高い。だからと言って乱暴に踏むと、すぐにフロントの荷重が抜け、立上がりでアンダ。
FR車みたいに丁寧なアクセルワークを。
純正オプションで付いてるLSDが優秀なので、買うときはLSD付きを選ぼう。
4輪ベンチレートディスクブレーキなので、サイドブレーキの利きが悪い。
パットをジムカ用にするのも手かな。
以上、言われている程悪くないよ。理論を考えながら運転する人にはオススメ。
MRで素性がいいので、1年くらい乗って使いこなせると非常にコーナー速いです。
ハンドル・アクセルを雑に操作する人には向かないけど、楽しい車なのでオススメです。
- 247 おっぺけ 2013/11/30(Sat) 16:05
- 昔、MR2スーパーチャージャーに乗ってて、今MR-Sに乗ってる。
スーパーチャージャーの加速は、ものすごかった。
ただ、上が抑えられていたなぁ。
今のMR-Sの方が、乗りやすい。
シビックもインテグラも、シルビアも、みんな居なくなった。
だから、敵が居ない。
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